Interview with Kale Zelden and Larry Chapp: The Ordo of Apathy

June 28, 2021

Linked below is my latest interview with Kale Zelden.  This might be our best conversation yet.  The video has synchronization problems so it often appears as if Kale and I are talking at the same time. However, this is a minimal annoyance. Sometime this week I will be posting a new blog post so stay tuned.

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