Interview with Kale Zelden and Larry Chapp: The Ordo of Apathy.

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Linked below is my latest interview with Kale Zelden. This might be our best conversation yet. The video has synchronization problems so it often appears as if Kale and I are talking at the same time. However, this is a minimal annoyance. Sometime this week I will be posting a new blog post so stay tuned.


  1. Is there a problem with the video? Several times both of you are speaking at the same time. Synchronisation failure?


    1. Yes there is a synchronization issue. But rather than just abandon the whole video over that issue we decided to post it anyway. I know it is annoying but hopefully not too much.


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