Larry Chapp Interviews Kale Zelden on the Crisis in the Church

Linked below are part one and part two of my interview with Kale Zelden. It is in two parts because I forgot that the free version of Zoom times out after forty minutes. so there is some awkardness at the end of part one and the beginning of part two. But I hate editing (don't know how anyway) so please forgive this poor old Luddite.

Part One:

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Part Two: