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# Interview with Kale Zelden and Larry Chapp: The Ordo of Apathy
- URL: https://gaudiumetspes22.com/interview-with-kale-zelden-and-larry-chapp-the-ordo-of-apathy/
- Published: 2021-06-28T21:37:00.000Z
- Updated: 2026-08-11T01:00:34.000Z
- Author: Larry Chapp
- Tags: Miscellaneous, #larry-chapp, #Import 2026-08-10 19:59

Linked below is my latest interview with Kale Zelden. This might be our best conversation yet. The video has synchronization problems so it often appears as if Kale and I are talking at the same time. However, this is a minimal annoyance. Sometime this week I will be posting a new blog post so stay tuned.