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# Fiducia Supplicans: Larry Chapp and Kale Zelden on Paul Vanderklay's podcast
- URL: https://gaudiumetspes22.com/fiducia-supplicans-larry-chapp-and-kale-zelden-on-paul-vanderklays-podcast/
- Published: 2023-12-24T00:30:00.000Z
- Updated: 2026-08-11T01:00:33.000Z
- Author: Larry Chapp
- Tags: Video Interviews, #larry-chapp, #Import 2026-08-10 19:59

Had a great time discussing Fiducia Supplicans on Paul Vanderklay's podcast. I had never heard of it before. Paul is a Dutch Reformed Protestant minister and is a delightful interlocutor. I am also joined by my friend Kale Zelden who is always brilliant. 

But I also need to issue a correction and an apology. Late in this video, in the Q&A session, I reference the work of Dr. Dawn Eden Goldstein. In my discussion of her work, which I regard favorably, I incorrectly stated that she is a lesbian woman who seeks to live chastely. This is wrong. She is not homosexual and I think I was confusing her with Eve Tushnet. I regret my mistake and issue this public apology and correction.